he's a good orator, he can deliver a speech. he's very good when he's on message and on offense. as you saw in the debates in florida against newt gingrich when he got on offense, the governor was very effective. when he leans into a debate, he can be pretty effective. >> bill: all right. weakness? >> weaknesses, when he gets -- like most every politician, when he gets defensive, that's when he makes mistakes. the $10,000 bet came when governor romney was being defensive about his health care policy and there have been other instances where other debaters have been able to get him on the defense and when that happens, he tends to look bad. >> bill: all right. you know that president obama is going to try to do that. he's going to question his health care criticism, his flip flops on various issues. he's going to press him from very specifics on your tax program and what you're going to phase out as far as deductions are concerned, all of that. is the governor going to be able to parry, can he parry? can he think fast enough on his feet to block inevitably what's going to come his